Thank you for bringing Michael's wisdom to our attention, Ben, great interview and great nuggets, some of which I note below.
In particular, I thank Mike for daring to suggest we don't have a subconscious and it's just the non-verbal right side of the brain. These days almost nothing surprises me and I am totally open to things that initially might cause a bit of cognitive dissonance because the contrary 'belief' is hard-wired. I recently read Thomas Gold's book The Deep Hot Biosphere which makes a compelling case that 'fossil fuels' are not from fossils but are constantly being made in the belly of the earth. Another one of those 'beliefs' being challenged.
Here are my main nuggets from the interview, thanks again Mike and Ben:
We live in an intention-based economy. We have a choice to choose what we attend to and where our intention is focused. The entire system requires our attention.
There is just one step: turn your attention away from the multi-nationals. That might be eyeballs and attention, or it might be revenue and expenditure, but the moment we stop it’s over.
For example, look at what you spent with Amazon last year. You don’t have to stop entirely, but cut it by 50%.
Delete 50% of the apps on your phone/tablet.
Delete all social media except where you might need it to communicate with your family.
They are a group of criminals. They are billionaires and they are stealing everything. They don’t think like us. They don’t share the same values and morals as ordinary human beings. Acquired psychopathy: you get to a certain amount of money and your normal moral centre just dissolves in that sum of money. They make the rules, the game is rigged, the pool table leans to their pocket.
On the upside, there will always be mavericks, the grit that produces the pearl.
It’s amazing how quickly the noise of modernity just goes. If you turn the TV off for a bit, turn the news apps off for a bit, it just goes. Real news is when you meet your spouse, when you have children, when you do something memorable with your friends, when you grow something special, this is real news.
Stuff that happens online is not news, it’s not real. Digital experiences are not real. Real things happen in real life, in person, in analogue. Every analogue experience is superior to the digital one. Every single one. How has the digital edifice been kept going for so long. It’s just 0’s and 1’s.
Are we living in the ruins of a failed civilisation already and we just don’t yet recognise it?
There is no subconscious, it’s just the non-verbal right brain.
Another great conversation, Ben. Thank you. I've followed Michael for a while and have appreciated his take on things over the last five years. Can't disagree with much of what has been said, today.
I know you are looking at it already but I'd really appreciate your take on the SEZ's and Agricultural zones these treacherous bastards are setting up at some point. It looks like the Teeside one is already having problems which pleases me, grealy. As you know David Powell has almost single handedly sounded the alarm on these and provided great research. Although how he still can't see what a monster the EU is and always was is beyond me. I agree with you both that what the parasites are trying to achieve is not possible ultimately and this is articulated beautifully in your conversation. Funnily enough I was at Kirkstall Abbey yesterday, which I'm sure you are familiar with from your Leeds days. I was marvelling at the architecture, the sheer beauty and magnificence of it. As a builder I know we'd struggle to do that today with all our advances in technology and that was built nearly 900 years ago. Suffice to say your ' cathedral as pinnacle' idea resonated deeply as did the vineyard analogy. After all, those buildings were ultimately inspired by nature and the forest. Thank you xxxx
I agree that In the long-run, the technocratic control grid will fail, but, as Keynes famously said, in the long-run we are all dead. I have no faith in mankind's ability to regain what mankind has so easily surrendered any more than I could believe that, unaided, an upturned ship could upright itself.
Our problems are fundamentally spiritual: we are up against more powerful and malevolent spiritual entities working through humans in subservience to them. However, David Icke's understanding of this dimension is unhelpful, and even counter-productive, not because many cannot accept it, but because it involves a denial of Christ.
Christ alone is able to save us, because He has absolute power and authority over all the spiritual forces ranged against us. Whether this realisation will begin to restore to us version of the world that we want, it is a certainly necessary for our own salvation as individuals.
I was living in a flat in Sloane St., London, when David Icke appeared on The Wogan Show and Terry tried to humiliate David live on TV. I was surprised how unpleasant Wogan was. Of course, being football mad, I remember Icke, ex pro-goalkeeper, as a rather boring Grandstand presenter. He went onto present the snooker, which at the time I was fascinated by. I designed a snooker centre for Soho for my BA (hons) architecture course.
During that Wogan Show, suddenly, Icke wasn't boring. I later read The Biggest Secret while laying beside a swimming pool in Bodrum, Turkiye c. 2005. It was an eye opener to say the least. Perhaps some nonsense, but certainly some hard hitting truths. I don't read them anymore, but have several Icke books.
Icke may have some bizarre ideas compared to most, but criticising him as 'super successful' Michael Driver just did in opening of this video, is disappointing and boring. I believe Icke still thinks a missile hit the Pentagon which is a silly notion and negates lines of evidence to the perpetrators of an 'inside job', but regardless, he's been a pioneer in so many aspects. 'Born again' truthers have become a thing. C'est la vie.
No thanks Michael. I'll leave you to enjoy your 'forest'.
That was a great Sunday afternoon listen, thanks Ben and Mike! I actually feel more optimistic and energised as a result of sensible conversation and reasoning 😎 and yes ….. vineyards👏👏 slow to establish, extremely specific to time and “terroir”. We have a few around here on the UK south coast and they are a beautiful addition to our countryside landscape. I see them as a metaphor for life in the slow lane, rooted in the soil and ….deferred gratification 😀
Let's get back to growing food without the use of poison, let's get back to learning stuff by trial and error and let's get back to building cathedrals.
Utterly fascinating conversation, many thanks Ben, God bless you.
As a Londoner of many many generations who moved away 30 years ago I'm astounded when I return to see how the older building are almost being squeezed out with new buildings built right up tight to them and the new buildings often overhang them too, I find it astounding, do they really need more offices and what happened to listed building status? I presume they are trying to strip away our history and culture . x
So enjoyable. My arc would consist of imagination and creativity, and all the ancient knowledge from deep within our souls which has been deliberately hidden from us. Look to the heavens and nature.
Thank you for bringing Michael's wisdom to our attention, Ben, great interview and great nuggets, some of which I note below.
In particular, I thank Mike for daring to suggest we don't have a subconscious and it's just the non-verbal right side of the brain. These days almost nothing surprises me and I am totally open to things that initially might cause a bit of cognitive dissonance because the contrary 'belief' is hard-wired. I recently read Thomas Gold's book The Deep Hot Biosphere which makes a compelling case that 'fossil fuels' are not from fossils but are constantly being made in the belly of the earth. Another one of those 'beliefs' being challenged.
Here are my main nuggets from the interview, thanks again Mike and Ben:
We live in an intention-based economy. We have a choice to choose what we attend to and where our intention is focused. The entire system requires our attention.
There is just one step: turn your attention away from the multi-nationals. That might be eyeballs and attention, or it might be revenue and expenditure, but the moment we stop it’s over.
For example, look at what you spent with Amazon last year. You don’t have to stop entirely, but cut it by 50%.
Delete 50% of the apps on your phone/tablet.
Delete all social media except where you might need it to communicate with your family.
They are a group of criminals. They are billionaires and they are stealing everything. They don’t think like us. They don’t share the same values and morals as ordinary human beings. Acquired psychopathy: you get to a certain amount of money and your normal moral centre just dissolves in that sum of money. They make the rules, the game is rigged, the pool table leans to their pocket.
On the upside, there will always be mavericks, the grit that produces the pearl.
It’s amazing how quickly the noise of modernity just goes. If you turn the TV off for a bit, turn the news apps off for a bit, it just goes. Real news is when you meet your spouse, when you have children, when you do something memorable with your friends, when you grow something special, this is real news.
Stuff that happens online is not news, it’s not real. Digital experiences are not real. Real things happen in real life, in person, in analogue. Every analogue experience is superior to the digital one. Every single one. How has the digital edifice been kept going for so long. It’s just 0’s and 1’s.
Are we living in the ruins of a failed civilisation already and we just don’t yet recognise it?
There is no subconscious, it’s just the non-verbal right brain.
I also looked Mike up and found his excellent list of 50 observations from inside the belly of modernity: https://michaeldriver.substack.com/p/the-way-it-is
Nice summary Christine thank you
Toni Morrison - 'At some point in life, the world's beauty becomes enough'. Wonderful conversation, thank you gents ;)
Another great conversation, Ben. Thank you. I've followed Michael for a while and have appreciated his take on things over the last five years. Can't disagree with much of what has been said, today.
I know you are looking at it already but I'd really appreciate your take on the SEZ's and Agricultural zones these treacherous bastards are setting up at some point. It looks like the Teeside one is already having problems which pleases me, grealy. As you know David Powell has almost single handedly sounded the alarm on these and provided great research. Although how he still can't see what a monster the EU is and always was is beyond me. I agree with you both that what the parasites are trying to achieve is not possible ultimately and this is articulated beautifully in your conversation. Funnily enough I was at Kirkstall Abbey yesterday, which I'm sure you are familiar with from your Leeds days. I was marvelling at the architecture, the sheer beauty and magnificence of it. As a builder I know we'd struggle to do that today with all our advances in technology and that was built nearly 900 years ago. Suffice to say your ' cathedral as pinnacle' idea resonated deeply as did the vineyard analogy. After all, those buildings were ultimately inspired by nature and the forest. Thank you xxxx
I agree that In the long-run, the technocratic control grid will fail, but, as Keynes famously said, in the long-run we are all dead. I have no faith in mankind's ability to regain what mankind has so easily surrendered any more than I could believe that, unaided, an upturned ship could upright itself.
Our problems are fundamentally spiritual: we are up against more powerful and malevolent spiritual entities working through humans in subservience to them. However, David Icke's understanding of this dimension is unhelpful, and even counter-productive, not because many cannot accept it, but because it involves a denial of Christ.
Christ alone is able to save us, because He has absolute power and authority over all the spiritual forces ranged against us. Whether this realisation will begin to restore to us version of the world that we want, it is a certainly necessary for our own salvation as individuals.
Michael was so inspiring. I’m surprised he hasn’t gone down the McCartney Tavistock and Richard Asher (MK Ultra) Rabbit hole.
See these guys podcasts for their wonderful research
https://www.sheepfarm.co.uk/
Michael was so inspiring. I’m surprised he hasn’t gone down the McCartney Tavistock and Richard Asher (MK Ultra) Rabbit hole.
I was living in a flat in Sloane St., London, when David Icke appeared on The Wogan Show and Terry tried to humiliate David live on TV. I was surprised how unpleasant Wogan was. Of course, being football mad, I remember Icke, ex pro-goalkeeper, as a rather boring Grandstand presenter. He went onto present the snooker, which at the time I was fascinated by. I designed a snooker centre for Soho for my BA (hons) architecture course.
During that Wogan Show, suddenly, Icke wasn't boring. I later read The Biggest Secret while laying beside a swimming pool in Bodrum, Turkiye c. 2005. It was an eye opener to say the least. Perhaps some nonsense, but certainly some hard hitting truths. I don't read them anymore, but have several Icke books.
Icke may have some bizarre ideas compared to most, but criticising him as 'super successful' Michael Driver just did in opening of this video, is disappointing and boring. I believe Icke still thinks a missile hit the Pentagon which is a silly notion and negates lines of evidence to the perpetrators of an 'inside job', but regardless, he's been a pioneer in so many aspects. 'Born again' truthers have become a thing. C'est la vie.
No thanks Michael. I'll leave you to enjoy your 'forest'.
A nice conversation, Mr Rubin, thank you.
That was a great Sunday afternoon listen, thanks Ben and Mike! I actually feel more optimistic and energised as a result of sensible conversation and reasoning 😎 and yes ….. vineyards👏👏 slow to establish, extremely specific to time and “terroir”. We have a few around here on the UK south coast and they are a beautiful addition to our countryside landscape. I see them as a metaphor for life in the slow lane, rooted in the soil and ….deferred gratification 😀
Let's get back to growing food without the use of poison, let's get back to learning stuff by trial and error and let's get back to building cathedrals.
Utterly fascinating conversation, many thanks Ben, God bless you.
As a Londoner of many many generations who moved away 30 years ago I'm astounded when I return to see how the older building are almost being squeezed out with new buildings built right up tight to them and the new buildings often overhang them too, I find it astounding, do they really need more offices and what happened to listed building status? I presume they are trying to strip away our history and culture . x
So enjoyable. My arc would consist of imagination and creativity, and all the ancient knowledge from deep within our souls which has been deliberately hidden from us. Look to the heavens and nature.